We are a family of 2 + 2 (Young kids, 6 & 4), and if sanity were to be kept as premise of logical decision-making, we have more vehicles than the household needs.
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Normally, when I am in the market for a new automobile, the use-cases and needs are very well laid out in my head. This time, though, it is different. Very!
Before the query, let me quickly lay the current garage out to rule out overlaps, at the very least.
2019 Porsche Macan R4 (With Sports Exhaust):
The car was primary until July last year, and has about 35k on the clock. With the new sports exhaust, it is the weekend-dose of fun that the streets of Ahmedabad typically allow in late evenings.
Also, pictured above is my 2019 Ducati Scrambler Icon, rendered useful only maybe 4-5 times a year – reflects in the 2k run on the odo.
LR Defender 2021 P300:
This has become my primary commute for about an year now, and also the highway cruiser-par-dream. It is specced well, and has pretty much everything you need in what is otherwise a car built for hardcore off-roading. I have had my share of fun doing that as well.
Toyota Corolla Altis J (Petrol):
This is the family beater, mostly consigned to the family chauffeur for errands, school & activity drops / pick-ups, and what have you.
Now, comes the dilemma. We are a family of 2 + 2 (Young kids, 6 & 4), and if sanity were to be kept as premise of logical decision-making, we have more vehicles than the household needs. But, that did not prevail. So, here we are, deciding on what to buy before the world turns electric and boring.
Budget: Sub 1-crore
Desire list: Not a large SUV, maybe a convertible, definitely a fast car (Say 0-100 in sub-6, if we can get one!) or luxurious for long drives, niche (Not seen all over the streets), should not overlap what we have in the garage
Don’t-care list: Service network (As the car won’t be driven more than 500 km / month), depreciation.
Options that crossed our mind :
- Used Ford Mustang.
- Toyota Alphard.
- Mini Convertible Cooper S / JCW.
- Mini Clubman / Countryman.
- Merc GLA AMG.
- BMW Z4 Roadster.
- New Merc V-Class.
- Merc C-Class Cabriolet (Not available as of now, it seems).
Good to note that the above list is neither comprehensive, nor sacrosanct. The idea of this query thread was to share with this fantastic group, the reasons behind considering a new vehicle (Not much really, but one that would possibly complete our garage), and to be advised in any direction!
We have also been looking at the option of building a caravan / camper on a mid-sized chassis, and use it for our long road-trips (1500km+). The kids would grow at their own pace, and hence the next 5 years need pampered and calm travel for them (in my personal parenting opinion).
Aim to close the purchase in the next two weeks – Happy to hear all opinions out.
Thank you, all!
Here’s what BHPian TorqueMonster had to say on the matter:
Since you are looking for Z4s’, and since you seem very happy with the Macan, why not add another Porsche to the Garage. I’ll say you should get yourself a used Cayman or 911.
The new Z4 is a nice car indeed, but the driving dynamics a Porsche offers is more than BMW ever could.
The Vellfire (Afaik the Alphard is not sold in India) is easily a sofa on wheels, but unless you want ultimate comfort, just ignore it, it isn’t that special otherwise.
The Mustang is good, but I just don’t see the use recommending a car that ideally is an entry sports car abroad.
I’ll just say that if you can go till about 1 cr, you should get yourself a used Porsche. Or even else, another good sportscar., be it from Mercedes or BMW or Audi. As you said, you wanted to enjoy something before electric cars come, so why not get yourself an actual sports car. You already have 3 cars which you can daily drive if you want. So yes, a sportscar should be ideally your priority.
Here’s what BHPian Sahil had to say on the matter:
I think you should either go electric or full blown V8 territory.
Electric: You do not need another SUV but the only properly quick electric coming to my mind is the Volvo V40 Electric that does 0 to 100 in 4.8 seconds or so.
V8: A used mustang is a decent option but I would perhaps stick to a German. Used RS7 or previous gen M5,C63 AMG could be good options. RS5 would be a good option too if you want a V8 then previous gen but new gen is quick too but a V6, both in used options will be well within your budget.
Consider a remap on the Macan, top it with octane booster or high octane fuel and you will easily have a sub 6 second car.
Here’s what BHPian androdev had to say on the matter:
My suggestion would be to keep it a 3 vehicle garage instead of adding one more car. You can always replace one or more of the cars with something better or different. Not sure how relevant my own learnings are, but here they are anyway in the order of significance:
- Errand car: I was using Honda City as my errand car and accidentally ended up with a Camry Hybrid. Only then I realised how important it is to have a good errand car if one can afford it. An errand car is not necessarily a cheap car but something that can see a lot of rough usage with minimal running costs. Camry fits the fill. It is cheaper to run than Honda City. We also have a Corolla in the extended family and Camry is in a class of its own. [My apologies to those members who find me repetitively praising Camry all over the forum] .
- Flagship car: The most outlandish and rewarding decision I have made as far as buying a car goes was to buy an S Class when my kids were under 4 years of age. My suggestion is to replace one of your cars with a “flagship” from the brand of your liking when kids are small. Don’t have 3 mid-range cars however good and appealing they are.
- For the thrills: You already have a Ducati. I don’t see much point in spending a fortune on a sports car if you already have a nice sports bike. You can use it more often, will be easier on the pocket and so on. It’s worth spending money on #1 and #2 above. Money spent on a sports car is just for vanity and a depreciation disaster.
Here’s what BHPian Akshay1234 had to say on the matter:
Well you have 2 awesome SUVs in your garage. One which gives you almost sedan like dynamics, and the other which gives you off road prowess. What both of them cannot replicate though, is the absolute feel of a performance vehicle. Forget the vans, if you want a camper you can get the tent accessory for your Defender.
Since you have kids, I’m guessing you’ll want a vehicle which can seat all of you. Check out the Mini convertible, it will give you some amount of thrills and drama in terms of sound, and also the fun of a convertible.
Apart from that, I would advise you to check out the A45s again which will be a great amount of fun.
If a hatchback is not what you are open to, then I would suggest the pre owned market, where you can get everything from an M5, to an S63 coupe (there is a beautiful example on sale with a dealer called Boys N Machines).
Here’s what BHPian kashesh had to say on the matter:
I’ve been in your shoes. I’ve previous owned a 2020 718 Cayman, Last year I’ve bought a M340i and this year picked a (preowned) 2016 F-Type V6 S.
718 Cayman is a great entry level car, and you can have a lot of fun with it. I still haven’t driven a car that handles like a Porsche does. It’s pretty tight and fun, but that 2 liter engine is quite a turn down. During my ownership experience, i’ve kept believing that 2 liter is adequate for Indian roads, and nobody could change my mind back then. I’ve read through a lot of threads here that how much of a let down 2 liter is and i kept thinking to myself that it’s not. The Cayman has great appeal too. The curves are just timeless and it grabs a LOT of attention.
After a great deal of research, I got a M340i. You know, power and practical mix. It’s a sleeper car, but it beats everything on a flick of a switch. I love the low profile look, and i think 3 series is a very handsome looking car. I look at it every time i park it, and i smile every time i floor it. I can drive with my family around with plenty of space for luggage. But it doesn’t even come close to handling like a Porsche does and I don’t even expect a 4 door to handle like a 2 door. But i missed that agility, and some what exclusivity.
And then I got a F-type V6 S. Simply put I was quite skeptic to buy a 2016 car in 2022, and that too a Jaguar. The reliability issues, and everything i’ve heard about JLR brand and then going that way just didn’t make sense to me. But the car was driven less than 10k, recently serviced, and well-kept. and then i am not so much of a convertible fan. I’ve also written in past how the attention of a yellow 718 swayed me from taking it everywhere. So i wasn’t quite sure of a Red F-Type.
But I did buy it anyway. And it changed my mind on everything (love that about it). After my experience with 2x 3 liter engines. I just can’t go back to ever buying a decent car with a 2 liter ever again. And it is something that you have to experience yourself for you to realize. I will highly recommend that if you do go two door route, look for a nice one with a 3 liter engine in it. I think with M340i, if practicality is necessary, then go this way. If you don’t plan on doing long trips, then a two door convertible is very much fun, especially with a 3 liter engine.
I haven’t had as much fun in a car before. The exhaust has a beautiful note, and no youtube videos will do justice to what it sounds like when you’re in it or around it. It makes me feel warm and funny when you’re climbing the RPM, and the burbles and crackles; it’s just so much fun. And the power that the V6 generates, you can make the rear move each time you floor it. It requires some skill to handle when you floor it and that makes it even more fun for me. It’s finally some justice for what i had in mind about a sports car. Everybody in my family loves it. And to put it simply, I owned 718 for a year and put 800 km on it. It’s been less than 3 months for the F-type and i’ve clocked more than 1k km on it. I WANT to drive it all the time. Also i found the fit and finish of interiors of Jaguar a lot more appealing than a Porsche. But we all have a different taste. I am honestly quite surprised with this whole experience with Jaguar.
Surprisingly, there’s not enough mention about F-type here on Team BHP. But it’s a car that i am keeping forever and i’d be happy to dedicate time and money in maintaining it. I hope this helps.
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